Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/24/2011 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 7 SYNTHETIC CANNABINOIDS AS SCHEDULE IIA TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 7(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 19 SPECIAL REQUEST LICENSE PLATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
<Bill Held Over from 2/22/11>
HOUSE BILL NO. 19                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to special request registration                                                                           
     plates; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[3:05:36]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN,  SPONSOR, reported  that during  a                                                                    
visit  to Indiana  he had  seen  "In God  We Trust"  license                                                                    
plates and thought they would be  good to have in Alaska. He                                                                    
added  that  250,000  of  the  plates  had  been  issued  in                                                                    
Indiana. He  detailed that the  special license  plate would                                                                    
be  available  only  upon  request  and  would  reflect  the                                                                    
patriotism and  cultural heritage  of other  citizens around                                                                    
the  country. He  described the  procedure  for issuing  the                                                                    
license  plates. A  driver would  be required  to request  a                                                                    
national  motto plate  and pay  a $30  fee. He  listed other                                                                    
states  that  had  the   special  license  plate,  including                                                                    
Kentucky, Virginia, and South Carolina.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze asked whether  there had been opposition to                                                                    
the item.  Representative Lynn responded that  there had not                                                                    
been.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello  queried the  design of  the license                                                                    
plate.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS REIKER, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN, replied that                                                                    
the issue had come up  in the House State Affairs Committee.                                                                    
The Division  of Motor  Vehicles (DMV)  would work  with the                                                                    
sponsor  regarding  the  design;   he  believed  they  would                                                                    
generate  a design  based on  the existing  plates in  other                                                                    
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  did not want to  have future requests                                                                    
for  license  plates by  groups  with  a "different  central                                                                    
figure in  the pantheon."  He asked  for assurance  that the                                                                    
state would  not be asked  for another license  plate saying                                                                    
we trust in anybody else,  such as Thor. Representative Lynn                                                                    
responded that  anyone in the legislature  could sponsor any                                                                    
bill  they   wanted,  but  he  trusted   the  State  Affairs                                                                    
Committee to not allow such a proposal to get far.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan was not  concerned about other members                                                                    
of  the   legislature;  people  could  file   law  suits  on                                                                    
practically anything.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  queried   the  experience  of  other                                                                    
states with  the "In God  We Trust" motto on  license plates                                                                    
in terms  of legal  problems. Representative  Lynn responded                                                                    
that the  American Civil Liberties  Union (ACLU)  in Indiana                                                                    
had raised questions,  but the questions were  not about the                                                                    
motto. The questions  were related to the  fact that Indiana                                                                    
was going to  issue the plate without an  additional fee. He                                                                    
believed  that went  no  place; Indiana  did  not charge  an                                                                    
additional  fee  for  the  license  plate.  However,  HB  19                                                                    
required a  fee of $30  like other specialty  license plates                                                                    
and was revenue neutral.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reiker  added that  the controlling  case from  the U.S.                                                                    
Supreme  Court  was Lynch  v.  Donnelly;  the ruling  listed                                                                    
several  different  practices  that the  federal  government                                                                    
undertook that could  be construed as religious.  One of the                                                                    
practices  was  printing "In  God  We  Trust" on  coins.  He                                                                    
quoted  the majority  opinion:  "Those practices,  including                                                                    
printing 'In God  We Trust' on coins, are  not understood as                                                                    
conveying  government   approval  of   particular  religious                                                                    
beliefs." He summed  that "In God We Trust"  had always been                                                                    
interpreted by  the court  to be more  an expression  of the                                                                    
national motto  than an expression  of religious  belief. He                                                                    
did not think  the measure would open the state  up to other                                                                    
religions claiming equal protection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara stated that he  did not oppose the bill,                                                                    
and  that  he was  a  "big  fan  of  God." However,  he  was                                                                    
concerned that  there would be more  license-plate bills. He                                                                    
pointed to another  that had already been  filed. He thought                                                                    
a  person  who  wanted  to  convey  something  political  or                                                                    
religious  on  their car  could  get  a bumper  sticker.  He                                                                    
believed people should  be able to say  whatever they wanted                                                                    
on  their  car,  house,  or   T-shirt.  He  did  not  see  a                                                                    
compelling  need for  the legislation,  although he  was not                                                                    
opposed to it.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  pointed out  that one benefit  to the                                                                    
state would be the revenue generated for the general fund.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the  revenue generated would not                                                                    
go to  a charity or  specific program. He asked  whether the                                                                    
revenue  would  cover the  costs  of  producing the  plates.                                                                    
Representative  Lynn   responded  in  the   affirmative  and                                                                    
reiterated that  specialty license  plates were  designed to                                                                    
be revenue neutral.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SHELLY   MELLOT,  MANAGER,   ANCHORAGE  DIVISION   OF  MOTOR                                                                    
VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF  ADMINISTRATION (via teleconference)                                                                    
testified that  the bill would  authorize the creation  of a                                                                    
new  plate for  anyone wanting  to  purchase an  "In God  We                                                                    
Trust" license  plate. She stressed  that the plate  was not                                                                    
for raising  funds and would  not require the creation  of a                                                                    
special fund for appropriation by  the legislature. The cost                                                                    
for establishing the plate would  be minimal; therefore, the                                                                    
DMV had attached  a zero fiscal note. The cost  of the plate                                                                    
to the  applicant would be  $30 under the bill,  in addition                                                                    
to the  registration fee  and any  tax established  by local                                                                    
governments. The  cost of each  plate to the state  would be                                                                    
about $10;  the remaining fees  collected would go  into the                                                                    
general fund.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:15:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mellot continued that typically  the DMV worked with the                                                                    
impacted entities on  the design of the plate;  in this case                                                                    
the DMV would  work with the sponsors of  the legislation on                                                                    
the  initial  design.  The  DMV would  then  work  with  law                                                                    
enforcement personnel  to ensure that officers  could easily                                                                    
identify the plate numbers for  their purposes. Finally, she                                                                    
reported that  the design would  go before  the commissioner                                                                    
of  the  Department  of Administration  for  final  approval                                                                    
before moving into production.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Stoltze   queried    the    position   of    the                                                                    
administration. Ms.  Mellot responded that the  division was                                                                    
neutral.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  requested   details  about  the  possible                                                                    
revenue that  could result  to the  state from  the measure.                                                                    
Ms. Mellot offered to get the information.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan stated  that he  supported the  bill.                                                                    
However, he pointed  out that it was easy to  support a bill                                                                    
that  says "In  God  We  Trust," since  the  phrase was  the                                                                    
national motto.  He stated for  the record that it  would be                                                                    
much more difficult for him  to support other bills that had                                                                    
more "political baggage"  than HB 19. He  emphasized that he                                                                    
did  not want  to take  committee time  to debate  about the                                                                    
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze stated that HB  19 was before the committee                                                                    
because it was ecumenical and fairly uncontroversial.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough   MOVED  to  report  HB   19  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  19  was REPORTED  out  of  committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation and  with attached previously  published zero                                                                    
impact fiscal note: FN1, ADM.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:20:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                         
week.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB7NEWFN(JUD)-DPS-02-22-11.pdf HFIN 2/24/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 7
HB7(JUD)NEWFN-DOC02-23-11.pdf HFIN 2/24/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 7
HB7 DPS HFIN NEW ZERO FN.pdf HFIN 2/24/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 7
HB7 Gara Amendment Failed.pdf HFIN 2/24/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 7